Sunday, April 3, 2011

LIBYA, BUDGET AND TEA PARTY, TRUMP

Perhaps I misspoke, at least in part, in the previous posting. There I said that we can expect "ambiguities" and "nuanced refinements" on our political goals in Libya and our role in military intervention there. On the former, political goals, the wording of the posting still seems valid. The longer Gaddafi remains in power in at least part of Libya, the less clarity we can expect on "what do we do now?" We can continue to squeeze him militarily and economically, but giving any final substance to our "Gaddafi must go" policy will remain elusive and thus our pronouncements will be ambiguous. But on the other point, our military involvement, we have been given clarity by Defense Secretary Gates in his testimony before a Senate committee.

Assuming that what Gates says is definitive, it gives assurance to those who want to end our role as policeman to the world. Gates said three things which, if they are the policy of President Obama, are reassuring. First, the U.S. will have no "boots on the ground" in Libya, meaning no U.S. ground forces will be committed there. ("Boots on the ground" became a popular phrase in the 2003 invasion of Iraq when many critics of the invasion, while not opposing the invasion itself, said there weren't enough "boots on the ground" to do the job properly.) Second, the U.S. will not be arming and training the Libyan rebels. Other countries can do that job Gates said. That would certainly seem a wise decision given our experience in arming the mujahideen to oust the Russians from Afghanistan when many of those we armed morphed into the Taliban who then hosted al Qaeda after taking power. Third, we will no longer participate in NATO air strikes in Libya. That's a major policy choice that immediately drew criticism from military hawks Senators McCain and Graham. And point three apparently has some "maybe's" attached to it since the U.S. has already gone along with a NATO request for an air strike because of bad weather.

Will the Gates' policy pronouncements have staying power? We can only hope so but he has long ago declared his intention to leave office this year and we don't know if an equally firm person will follow.

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The budget. The beat goes on but it may be sending a different message to the tea party (TP) spending hawks and their fellow travelers. GOP House Speaker Boehner, while remaining elusive on whether a compromise spending plan is near, seems to finally be telling the TP that it is going to have to live with an outcome that falls significantly short of their demand for a $61 billion cut in spending for the current fiscal year which ends September 30.

The talked about number if $33 billion and without some of the social policy items the TP wants included. But no deal has been done yet between the House GOP, Senate Democrats, and President Obama. What is most important, assuming some kind of deal is made before the April 8 deadline for congressional action or shutting down the government, is that Boehner is drawing his own line in the sand for the TP. And, of course, TP activists counter with their usual threats of "give us what we want or face TP opposition in next year's GOP primaries." If that line isn't drawn now, Boehner will have to face down the TP on the even bigger isses ahead -- raising the national debt ceiling later this spring and the size and shape of the GOP budget countering Obama's budget plan for next year.

The bottom line for the GOP in the House is whether the TP tail continues to wag the establishment dog, or the wagging stops here.

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Crazy like a fox. When real estate mogul Donald Trump, an egotist always looking for the next mirror or TV camera, took firm sides with the right wing birthers who question Obama's natural born U.S. citizenship, the immediate reaction was that Trump is either a nut, just out on another publicity stunt, or simply pandering to the far right wing in case he does become a presidential candidate. But when you think about it, it really was a smart move for catching right wing attention to support any interest he may have in running for President. For any would-be Republican presidential candidate, pandering to the far right is a necessary rite of passage.

Trump could have spoken out against abortion, immigration reform, or gay rights, but the reaction would have been a big ho hum. But to say you're now a committed birther does get attention and it did. And perhaps the new attention to Trump as a birther also got him his new gig on Fox news.

So who is right? Trump for his seeming absurdity in becoming a birther or us for thinking he's a whacko?

9 comments:

  1. What Gates is saying makes me have more confidence that we have some good leadership somewhere in our government. I haven't been feeling very confident lately. I sure hope his words have force and staying power. I sure would hate to see our young people involved in yet another war with "boots on the ground". It is hard to imagine what the soldiers and their families are going through with deployment after deployment. I am glad that there is somebody in a position of authority that holds the viewpoint that this should not be a US war.

    Honestly, I don't now what programs are on the chopping block that are affected by reaching a $61 billion budget cut so I should be careful what I say. But with such a huge deficit and all the millions (billions?) we all know are wasted with government spending, I find it hard to swallow that we can't come up with at least that to cut from our budget. It doesn't seem to me that enough people in Congree are concerned about our extreme spending and the effect that will have on future generations. I was frankly turned off when I heard Schumer's phone call. The hard working, tax paying citizens of this country deserve better than having that hard earned money thrown away and his talk of closing government over some political strategy to make the TP look bad. There is a lof that is hard to agree with with respect to the TP, but I do think they have it right that we need to be concerned about the huge deficit and our children's future.

    I think Trump will go the way of Ross Perot so I have no further comment and since I have been rambling on here for a while I should stop anyway. Thanks for the opportunity to "rant".

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  2. Certainly glad to hear that we will not be arming the rebels. From all accounts it did not sound like a smart thing to be doing given we don't really know the makeup of the rebel army. And, given, as you have said, our past history in this area, only adds to the reasons why we it would be a bad idea.

    Less than one week and we'll see what happens with the government closing but it sure isn't looking good. It is looking like another loss for Boehner.

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  3. Carole

    Believe Hillary Clinton has sided with Gates on our no active involvement policy so that helps firm up that policy. Supposedly our early "exception" to the no U.S. air strike policy is to be a one and done event and there will be no more such strikes after today.

    What's going on with the budget can only make us mere onlookers shake our heads. And when this current fiscal year issue is resolved there will be similar political posturing on both sides with the Republican alternative to the Obama 2012 budget. The GOP budget is supposed to be released tomorrow but enough is already known about it that we can expect some more ugly days ahead. But, hopefully, both sides will seriously confront the huge politically charged issue of what to do about entitlement programs.

    Interesting about your Trump-Perot comment. Perot at least based his campaign on a rational case of taxing and spending while Trump jumps on anything that will get him attention and the media helps him out.

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  4. dpchuck

    And now it sounds like the British and French are also wary of moving too quickly to arm the rebels. There are enough rumblings about "bad guys" being among the "good guys" that caution is certainly in order. Happily we've already opted out.

    All indications are that something will be worked out by Friday, but the budget issue has such a shaky history that one should not be overly optimistic. The big loss for Boeher will be if he has to rely on Democrats to get any budget agreement passed in the House. There seems to be some wavering among some GOP spending hawks about shutting down the government so perhaps he will have sufficient Republican support to get it through the House.

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  5. With the Secreatry of State supporting Gate's position that should be a pretty strong position to stay out of the fray. I am still surprised by the high percentage of the US population that was in support of the war. I am hearing criticism of our humanitarian reasons for going into Libya in the first place. There is argument as to why we have never done anything to help the Ivory Coast where there is far more violence.

    Trump really does seem to like to get attention and seems to be doing so with his attention to the President's birth certificate. I was surprised to see his visit on the View did not result in any one walking off the show like happened with O'Reilly.

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  6. Jeffrey

    Guess it's the usual thing. If you support the war you base that support at least on humanitarian reasons for intervention, plus there are those who never met a war they didn't like. On the other hand, if you oppose any intervention, then you view the humanitarian reason as a fig leaf to cover the "policeman of the world" role. Guess we're leaving it to the French to intervene in the Ivory Coast mess. Sub-Sahara Africa is a really challenging place for intervention for anyone. Consider Darfur and Rawanda and the long-running mess in Zimbabwe.

    Guess Whoopi Goldberg was in a relaxed mode that day.

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  7. Well, I'd put Trump up their with Gadhafi on the egotism/wackjob scale, but not as far gone as Charlie Sheen. But the birther business most likely is a calculated media ploy. I doubt Trump and Beck truly believe the nonsense they spout but know that millions will tune in to hear them say it and cheer them on. It's like Fox takes the World Wrestling Entertainment concept and applies it to their "news" commentators.

    As for the budget, who does Charley predict will come out the biggest political loser? And do you think Boehner is toeing the Tea Party hardline in his heart of hearts or is he secretly wishing for a compromise? My bet is that the TPers will come out smelling fine, at least in the noses of their rabid supporters and that the GOP will suffer worse than the Dems in the polls.

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  8. Sidney

    So when will Charlie Sheen become a birther? It might give some life to his tour. I can't believe that Trump actually believes the birther stuff. As to Beck, he seems only interested to being more outrageous than Rush Limbaugh to help sell his books and keep up his speaking fees.

    If Obama plays it right over the next 2-3 days, believe the Dems can again come out on top like they did in l995. My opinion is that Boehner would like to drive a stake through the hearts of the TPers. But he doesn't want to have to rely on Dem votes to get any compromise through the House and he may be a bit worried that the TP types could try a coup to dump him as Speaker. Certainly Eric Cantor has the Cassius lean and hungry look, just waiting for the call.

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  9. Hah! Proclaiming himself a birther is just what Charlie Sheen needs to get his career back on track. Cantor has that lean and hungry look down. Now he just needs to work on his tan. And I am delighted to see that after the loss of 300 advertisers for Glen Beck's show, Fox has pulled the plug. Sadly he'll probably find another lucrative way to spread his poison.

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